Time for an upgrade

I've been looking at replacing my machine for a while now as it's been showing signs of slow agonising death for quite some time. When it gets to the point that texture and vertex corruption in games are a good day it's time to take the thing out to the back yard and shoot it.

After a large bill being delayed till next year I had the money to consider the task. Last time I did a sort of stop gap upgrade replacing the processor and the graphics but leaving everything else in place as a result the motherboard and memory are all now totally obsolete. Also Intel have gotten good since the last time I was in the market for a machine, as a result I basically have to replace everything.

The choice of processor is pretty easy Intel are where it's at these days so I based my system on a intel core 2 quad 6600 a cheap but usually pretty overclockable little number.

After that I needed to pick a motherboard, but to decide that I needed to work out which graphics firm to go with ATI or Nvidia. Up until recently this wasn't much of a choice but ATI have made some interesting strides of late in releasing their 4800 series the 4870 and the 4850 which compete fairly well with their nvidia counterparts sitting with the 4870 being roughly between the 280 and the 260 the 4850 being below or even with the 260 as well as being a fair amount cheaper. But just recently they released something else something a touch more powerful, the 4870 X2 and 4850 X2 both of which are doubled up versions of the aforementioned cards with a few bits of additional hardware and a few tweeks (more memory and so on). The 4870X2 is pretty much the most powerful card out there (At a price) and it's crossfire enables so you could (if you wanted) stick two of them in one machine though since they consume a bucket load of power you'd need a pretty beefy psu for that.

Armed with a few hundred reviews I concluded it was time to give Ati another try and selected the 4870x2 I decided just to stick with one of those 2 would be a bit more than my budget would stretch to at the moment.

With the ati card selected it was time to pick motherboards there are a few options there the x38 which is pretty good if a touch old supports DDR2, the x48 which is hand picked x38's with the option of DDR3 and then there is the P45 the new kid on the block which will do DDR2 or 3 but most boards support 2 atm.

I figured DDR3 is still not worth the extra money for the minimal performance gains and since x38 and p45 are roughly equivalent in price I went for the P45 which shows some performance gains.

After that it was pretty much standard stuff grab a set of ddr2 4gigs worth, a hard disk 750g sata2 samsung spinpoint, and a 1000w psu. I also grabbed a case as my last one no longer fits modern psu's, something I discovered when my last psu blew and I had to use a hammer to bend the inside of the case enough to get the replacement to fit.

So I ordered all that yesterday and today it's sat in boxes next to me ... tempting me. Anyway hopefully it should be a pretty good system and able to play games for the foreseeable future, I might even get to try crysis now I have a computer that has the specs to run it, at least on low detail at 640x480 ;)

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Good stuff! Hope the build goes nice and smoothly. Keep us posted on how you're getting on.

Nibbles's picture

and I had to use a hammer to bend the inside of the case enough to get the replacement to fit.

Bah! just a hammer? I've been needing a hacksaw to get new PSUs into my case for the last two I've bought. :D

Sounds like a sound machine, mate, good luck with the build.

Since the patch, Crysis runs pretty well on my machine (high graphics, 16somethingx1050), so yours should eat it for breakfast. I didn't find it a great game though, I guess your mileage may vary on that.

AggroBoy's picture

Wowzers, I go away and the computing average takes another leap! Nice to see someone's having a go with ATi, it's time for them to kick some butt.

brainwipe's picture

The build process went pretty smooth, the case I got (an acer something or other) while not tool less was pretty well designed so that all the parts come out for easy access and cable routing.

One thing I did find is that the 4870x2 is massive very very long, I had to take out the 2nd 3/1/2 inch drive bay the case came with to fit it in. I doubt that will be a problem the main drive mount has space for 5 discs in the base of the thing.

I plugged it in turned it on and it fired up first time and went straight into this express gate thing which is basically a cut down os in the bios with web IM skype and the like. I can see that being useful if you were to kill windows and not have another machine about to figure out how to fix it.

I installed xp and patched it added all the various drivers which took up most of the evening. I did a bit of overclocking got it up to 2.8 ghz I could probably push it a bit harder if I fiddled some more but it was getting late and I hadn't yet run anything on it.

I loaded UT3 fired it up for a quick game must have set the bots to terminally stupid as they were useless but still it ran smooth and nice at 1600*1200 with everything set to max.

I loaded up 3Dmark 06 (it came with the new one 3dmark venture or somesuch but it's vista only and I don't have a good vista image for some dual bootage) and I left it running this morning.

One thing I did find was that the case is now just slightly too tall to fit where I usually have it and that the 120mm fans have something obstructing them so on high speed they make an annoying clicking noise. I expect I can fix both of those issues (it's hammer time!).

I think this is the smoothest build I've done recently which may mean something horrific will go wrong soon :D

Evilmatt's picture

Have you any plans for the old components?

brainwipe's picture

I might just keep it as a vaguely functional back up machine, though it's not much use for games so I don't know.

Evilmatt's picture

What graphics cards are in it?

(not that I'm sniffing around...)

babychaos's picture

2x7900gt

Evilmatt's picture

Thats depressing...identical to mine, so no point trying to nick them :-(

babychaos's picture

Oooooooh....

brainwipe's picture

we did buy almost identical systems back a while back :D

to be honest I suspect at least on or both of those cards are knackered anyway

Evilmatt's picture

Rather unfortunately the graphics card and memory are now toast

so they have gone back for replacing

I'm running on one of the old graphics cards and cheapo pcworld ddr2

Evilmatt's picture

Ouch!

Any idea why they burnt out?

babychaos's picture

Arse monkeys. That sucks balls man...

Nibbles's picture

no idea, the graphics did run a little warm at 90degC but still it was working fine for a while like that. The memory was cheap so I guess you get what you pay for.

Evilmatt's picture

The card and memory are currently undergoing "testing" before they decide if they will be willing to replace them.

Hopefully that won't take much longer.

In the mean time I canaballised my previous machine and got it going on one of the old 7900's

I also got out crysis for a comparison when the card does come back. It is fairly playble at 1024*768 on the lowest settings with no aa and no af.

It was a bit annoying tho I picked up a proper copy of crysis from sainsburys (who had it for a tenner for some reason) and it wouldn't actually run due to some daft secure rom error. How is that discouraging piracy to make me have to hunt down a no cd for my legal copy.

Evilmatt's picture

so while I was away in the states they finished testing my graphics card and memory and sent me new ones.

I've been playing crysis limping on a single 7900gt at 1024*768 with low settings and no AA

so I set everything up and got it going and fired up crysis under xp it now runs at native 1600*1200 with 8* AA smooth

now I just need to get vista going so I can try the same thing on dx10

Evilmatt's picture

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice. I'm quite surprised how reasonably priced DX10 cards are.

brainwipe's picture